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    A few questions about Super Roulette Strategy

    Hi 2 All!

    I propose to discuss the practical aspects of the Super Strategies in this topic.
    For example, I am interested in the following questions in relation to strategies for dozens:

    1. What is the minimum / optimal bankroll needed to play / number of units?
    2. What is the optimal length of the game session / with minimal risk? Do I need to take breaks, start from the beginning?
    3. How to use the number of steps: 4-5 or more?
    4. What to do when they lose the maximum amount of betting steps?
    Which way is more effective? How to minimize risks without sacrificing performance? Who has any ideas?
    5. How to calculate probability for skips and streaks when you play on dozens?
    for example for this situation:
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    Sorry for bad English

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    Voldemarius:

    Looks like you are a kokodrilo (big-time gambler). I guess we may address each other as kokodrilo.

    The Super Roulette Strategy is presented in great detail on its dedicated page:

    The Super Roulette Strategy: The Best Roulette Systems Ever Released.

    There are further details on how I applied my roulette strategy in real casinos:

    Why casinos still ban the skilled players, winning gamblers.

    Also, there are facts presented in my probability book. Additionally, my book presents the very new and original FFG deviation and how I can apply it to casino gambling, roulette specifically. The FFG deviation has a great advantage over the statistical standard deviation: FFG can be calculated in advance. The two parameters, however, are very close in size.

    The facts on how I applied my Super Roulette Strategy in real-life casinos (Atlantic City, New Jersey, USA) are beyond doubt. Otherwise, the casinos I mentioned, their employee names, badge numbers, exact times and dates, would have filed lawsuits against me long ago!

    This thread is not the place to republish facts already published. It makes no sense whatsoever! Thus, you can answer your questions … yourself by re-reading the materials I just mentioned.

    Perhaps this is the place to talk in a little more detail about the probability of streaks. But, again, you gotta study more thoroughly my theories freely and clearly expressed at my website. You should understand well how my free software SuperFormula.exe works and what it does. You should also be aware that the number of trials (roulette spins, in this case) is very important. The longer the sessions (number of trials), the longer the losing streaks can get. Granted, your winning streaks get longer as well — but not as long as the L or – (minus sign).

    So, you sez you play the double-dozen / double column roulette strategy. A double dozen (like the roulette numbers 1 – 12 and 13 – 24) have a probability p = 24 / 37 (I assume you are European). That is the W probability. The L (loss) probability is the reverse: 1 – W or p = (37 – 24) / 37 = 13/37. You can calculate the probability of streaks even with a hand-held calculator.

    What is the probability of a single win in a number of spins N? You describe a single W streak this way: LWL. That is, the W begins immediately after a loss L and ends immediately (followed by another loss). You describe a double-win (WW) streak this way: LWWL. That is, the W begins immediately after a loss L, hits again, and is followed by a loss. And so on …

    Let’s take a session equal to 37 * 3 roulette spins: a number of trials equal to 111 spins. How many WW double-win streaks can we have in 111 spins? LWWL = 13/37 * 24/37 * 24/37 * 13/37 = 97344/1874161 = ‘1 in 19.25’. If we divide 111 by 19.25 we get 5 or 6 double-win (WW) streaks in 111 roulette spins.

    How many triple-losses (LLL) in 111 spins? WLLLW = 24/37 * 24/37 * 13/37 * 13/37 * 13/37 = 1265472/69343957 = ‘1 in 54.8’ or 2 times in 111 spins.

    How many triple-wins (WWW) in 111 spins? LWWWL = 13/37 * 13/37 * 24/37 * 24/37 * 24/37 = 2336256/69343957 = ‘1 in 29.7’ or 3 or 4 times in 111 spins.

    Of course, you can avoid all that manual labor. You can run my gambling software named Streaks.exe. It belongs in software category 5.6: Scientific Software: Mathematics, Statistics, Probability, Combinatorics, Odds, Algorithms.

    Now, don’t give me that bull that they throw at me in other gambling forums! That is, they encountered LLL some 20 times in 111 spins or so! That’s how they argue against my theories! They even throw their insanity in my inboxes: “Ion, your super strategy brought me into bankruptcy! I lost a dozen times in a row playing a double-dozen! It happened to me numerous times…ye know, the gambler’s fallacy is God’s punishment for the gambling sin!” On the other hand, you will never hear me say that my theories are 100% guaranteed to win! I see that string in searches referring to my Web site. I am the first human to discover that there is no such thing as absolute certainty. They can take that to the bank, but not to the court!

    Best of luck, kokodrilo!

    Ion Saliu
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    Hi Doc! Thanx for reply! I’ve read it a few months ago, but unfortunately haven’t time to continue discussion.

    So, let’s begin
    1. If I understand correctly min. bankroll for playing dozens is 242 units. But it is safer to have 242*3 = 726 units. We can also play columns simultaneously as well.
    2. I didn’t find solution about optimal game length in spins or target profit etc. Does the system win more then it loses? Did you check it for long play? For example, 100,000 or 1,000,000 consecutive computer generated trials.
    3. We usually play max 5 steps. But what we have to do if we lose 5 steps? Wait for next trigger or continue from the beginning (1 step) or wait for two-three WLLW / LWL etc. Or maybe stop playing or go to the next table/casino/close casino soft etc.
    4. How to calculate the theoretical number of winning and losing triggers (from 2 x WLLW to 7 x WLLW; from 2 x LWL to 7 x LWL) for planned sequence of spins?

    BR
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    Last edited by voldemarius; 04-16-2011 at 09:43 AM.

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    Other questions after reading your book

    Hi Ion!

    I've bought and read your wonderful book. As you can see I'm very interested in Super Roulette Strategy.

    I don't understand how to apply method below? Do I have to apply it together with Super roulette strategy? Or is it another approach? How to decide which number will be the next?
    What about repeaters and zero?

    Pls help!

    BR,
    voldemarius


    Code:
    Spin	In/De	StD	D12	D13	D23	K12	K13	K23
    21			+	-*	+	-	+	+
    4	-	-	+	+**	-	+	+	-
    17	+	-	+*	-	+	+	-	+
    4	-	-	+	+	-	+	+	-
    15	+	+	+	-	+	-	+	+*
    22	+	+	+	-	+*	+	+	-
    23	+	+	+	-*	+	+	-	+
    20	-	+	+	-*	+	+	-	+
    8	-	-	+	+**	-	+	-	+
    33	+	-	-	+	+	-	+*	+
    StD represents the good ole standard deviation. You can see the statistical standard deviation for the Hamburg data file in the previous report: 11. The real results file has about 8,000 roulette spins—a significantly high amount of data for roulette. However, I calculate the FFG deviation as I remarked in the chapter dedicated to standard deviation. The FFG deviation represents the number of trials, N, for a degree of certainty equal to 25% for any probability, p.We calculate p at roulette as 1/37 (single zero) or 1/38 (double zero). The FFG deviation is the same: 11.

    I use the FFG deviation as a betting parameter. This parameter can be applied only in conjunction with the In/De parameter. I must determine first if the next roulette number will be an increase or a decrease. Let’s look at the real number 15, which was a winning situation for me. I expected an increase, and I was right. I also expected the increase to be within FFG deviation.

    I had failed in the previous spin: 4 represented a decrease from 17, but the difference was 13. Therefore, it was outside the standard deviation of 11. This time, number 15 was an increase of 11 from the previous spin (number 4). I had lost 11 units in the previous spin. I paid 11 more for this spin, but this time I won 36: a profit of 14.

    I applied this StD method four times in this particular span of 10 spins. I won twice and failed twice. I should have increased my bet after a failure, but I didn’t. The method still gained a $140 profit (14 x 2 x $5).

    The * sign marks the betting situations on the double dozens or columns. The columns are harder to track as they don’t consist of contiguous numbers. Hence, my betting on the Ks was lighter. Also, my focus was on the StD parameter. I started casually with the $5 minimum bet in theD13 double dozen. I lost. I triple-martingaled the next spin and won (the ** means a martingale step). Next, I bet on a long streak of D12. It was long, indeed, but I bet only once on it. As earlier in this section, the p=2/3 parameters do encounter long winning streaks at times. It happens to at least one of such parameters within the same range of analysis (roulette spins).

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    Voitser:

    I appreciate your interest in my work — thanks.

    There is no way (and no time) that I could write in a message as much as I have already written. There are hundreds of pages on my site. I always recommend reading and possibly re-reading of my materials. It’s the best way to figure out playing methods — apply them on paper first.

    Not to mention that my time is really, really loaded! Under no circumstances can I tutor on a personal basis! I deal with thousands of persons, visitors to my Web site, or, even better, customers! Thanks to all.

    I’m still working on upgrading my software. You, the visitors to my site, are luckier than me. You only have to read my works. You have a lot more time to play in real-life. On the other hand, I spend a lot of time writing and programming. Writing computer software is an intensely time-consuming chore. I wish I had more spare time. I will have soon. ‘Cuz I want to benefit from my discoveries as well…

    I never said I PREDICT the future. In fact, I am the first to discover MATHEMATICALLY that there is no absolute certainty. What I say, however, is that certain outcomes have a higher degree of certainty to “hit” in a streak of events.

    Nobody will ever predict accurately the next roulette number — who gave you that insane impression?! Unfortunately, you have a big-ego problem. You can’t take NO for an answer. Cool down, amice! You can read well (although you don’t express well enough in English). Just apply what I’ve written about — and you’ll definitely be a winner. Provided that, of course, they allow you to write down in a notebook in a casino, including at the roulette table.

    So, your main problem is to cure that soccer-hooliganism problem that’s the frontend of your ego. Otherwise, you won’t be able to stick around here any longer. I deal well with ungrown-ups…


    Best of luck to all!

    Ion Saliu

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    If you are interested in the dozen strategy you can download a tracker from rouletteforum.cc
    Go to the software section and you can download it.

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    Smile Happy Thanksgiving Day!

    Many thanks for your super strategy for roulette. But it is not very easy to write 42 digits when you play and sometimes do not have time. I would like to ask whether you have a program for this method

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    Try first the easiest bets: two-dozen / two column. After a few days of playing, every bet becomes much easier. It became so easy, that I even was able to discover systems based on the FFG deviation!

    The computers are not allowed in the casino — period.

    The most difficult obstacle is not related to the gambling systems themselves. It’s how the casinos react to your gambling — with an opened notebook where you record roulette spins. You don’t do absolutely anything ILLEGAL by writing down roulette numbers! You don’t interfere with the game in any way whatsoever … you don’t touch the wheel or the rolling balls … or anything else mechanical … or physical, like the Croupier….

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    Thanks Ion!
    If play whole dozen rezults may be other, because that big group, if play inside with each number rezults other. I already tried this method.
    Can expalin about new system based on FFG deviation? Thanks so much for your effort. I appreciate you.

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    The Best Roulette Trackers for All Bets

    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    If you are interested in the dozen strategy you can download a tracker from rouletteforum.cc
    Go to the software section and you can download it.
    Tracker? What the heck is that? I’ve seen it at times in the stats of my website (referring keywords: roulette tracker).

    I don’t think there is a better tracker than SuperRoulette.exe. Even the totally-free online random generator is a very good roulette tracker. It covers single numbers (straight-up bets), even-money bets (red-black, low-high, odd-even), plus the famous 2-to-1 (double-dozen, double-column).

    Not to mention that my random number generators, including roulette, employ the very best randomization algorithms.



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    Roulette System based on FFG Deviation

    Quote Originally Posted by diyora View Post
    Can expalin about new system based on FFG deviation? Thanks so much for your effort. I appreciate you.
    The roulette system based on FFG deviation is more complicated. I don’t have enough time and patience to explain it now. Honestly, I don’t even want to explain it in minute details! I explained enough the FFG deviation so that readers who put a serious effort can learn a lot:

    Standard Deviation, Variance, Volatility, Fluctuation, Statistics

    This roulette system applies to the straight-up bet only. If FFG deviation is 11, the next roulette number is, in a majority of cases, + or 11 from the previous one. Mark + if, indeed, the next number fell within the FFG deviation; mark – if not. Keep track of all those +/- streaks….

    Looking at the image in my previous post: we can see the last 7 roulette numbers generated.

    1) From 34 to 31 ~ difference (-3) ~ within the FFG deviation = win W +
    2) From 31 to 10 ~ difference (+21) ~ outside the FFG deviation = loss L -
    3) From 10 to 14 ~ difference (+4) ~ within the FFG deviation = win W +
    4) From 14 to 7 ~ difference (-7) ~ within the FFG deviation = win W +
    5) From 7 to 3 ~ difference (-4) ~ within the FFG deviation = win W +
    6) From 3 to 17 ~ difference (+14) ~ outside the FFG deviation = loss L –

    Result: 4 wins, 2 losses.

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    Chief among the pirates of my roulette systems was exposed here:

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    Thumbs up Happy New Year!

    Hello Ion!
    Happy New year!
    Thanks for answer.

    I'd like asking you about FFG deviation!
    I figured out if a certain number then you need put 11 more and 11 less (for example if it came out 20 to put from 21 to 31 and from 9 to 19). Only a flat rate? Do I understand?

    And how to play with dozens of?
    I would be very grateful if you answer my question. Thank you very much for your ideas and work. God bless you.

    Hello Ion!
    I played FFG deviation method and i didn't see increase profit.
    Maybe i play wrong, can you explain more detail this method with deviation?
    I don't have access to online roulette because i live in USA and your words about dozen deviation seems promising.
    Thanks so much.
    I appreciate you.
    Last edited by diyora; 01-15-2012 at 10:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diyora View Post
    I played FFG deviation method and i didn't see increase profit.
    The final word:

    GAMBLING is all about STREAKS, STREAKS, STREAKS.

    Playing randomly does NOT increase the profit. The Player can lose or win within 1 standard deviation. The final result, after an enormous number of trials and flat-betting, is a loss if the house edge is greater than 0 (zero). All casino gambling is based on that probability. There are situations, however, when the Player has a sizable winning streak — still within one standard deviation, but on the positive side.

    I referred to Streaks.exe in this thread. Anybody can use the program to calculate the number of streaks within any number of trials. You take a bet like even money in roulette. You can expect 4 streaks of 5 consecutive losses each in 200 trials (roulette spins). The Player can increase the bet after a 5-loss streak. The degree of certainty is higher to reverse the trend. It does NOT happen automatically.

    The losing streak could continue. But it won’t go forever like in the absurd (and insane concept) of gambler’s fallacy. I believe I put that issue to rest. When the second consecutive 5+ losing streak appears, the bet must be even higher, as the degree of certainty increases with the increase in the number of trials.

    That’s why I have always advised against betting all on one trial, like all-in in poker. The Player must consider the reality of losing streaks as well as winning streaks. The bankroll must assure multiple-trial betting as the winning streaks are real too.

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    Case closed.

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